Transformative Mental States
Exploring the profound impact of mental state changes, David highlights how unsystematic desensitization can effectively address phobias and trauma without medication. The conversation emphasizes the therapeutic potential of altering brain states, showcasing how a shift in perspective can lead to emotional and cognitive resilience.In this clip
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Related Questions
If the goal is to diminish the physiological response, would changing the physiological response immediately after being triggered also diminish the physiological response over time and break the conditioning? For example, if a person had a traumatic experience with a spider, and every time they see the spider or get triggered, they use breathwork to calm their body, would that work like retelling a narrative to extinguish the fear?
If the goal is to diminish the physiological response, then if the person works to change their physiological response immediately after being triggered, would that over time also diminish the physiological response and therefore break the conditioning? Am I right? For example, if a person had a traumatic experience with a spider, but every time the person sees the spider or gets activated through some trigger and immediately after uses breathwork to calm the body, would that work like retelling a narrative to extinguish the fear? Did I miss something?
In the episode Erasing Fears & Traumas Based on the Modern Neuroscience of Fear | Huberman Lab Podcast #49 and the clip Deliberate Stress Intervention, Andrew talks about a process to erase fear and traumas by retelling the narrative to extinguish the fear or trauma and diminish the physiological response. If the goal is to diminish the physiological response, would changing the physiological response immediately after being triggered also diminish the physiological response over time and break the conditioning?